Historical Overview of Grey College vs Affies Derbies 1953-2010
Grey College vs. Affies Interschools
The Rugby Teams of Grey College and Affies first played against each other in 1953, the same year that Affies’ legendary Springbok Louis Schmidt played in the First Team. Since 1953 Grey and Affies have met 31 times with Grey winning 23 of these encounters while 3 matches were lost and 5 were drawn (74% winning record).
Grey’s winning record against all other schools since 1966 is 95% while Affies has a winning record of 70% against all other schools which dates back to 1923. Grey produced a total of 39 Springboks to date and Affies 7 Springboks. Post-isolation Springbok counts (since 1992) are 22 for Grey and 4 from Affies. Over the last decade Grey and Affies produced the most number of senior provincial rugby players (Currie Cup, Super 14 and Vodacom Cup) than any other school in South Africa.
While Grey has a better winning record at the First Team level than Affies, it is interesting to note the strength and depth of Affies Rugby where Affies has won (on several occasions over the last two decade) the overall rugby count of all rugby matches played during the Interschools day.
The Grey vs. Affies Interschools has now evolved to be one of the Premier Interschools in South Africa and is a reflection of strength vs. strength between South Africa’s foremost rugby schools.
See below a historical overview of these two great schools:
The year in which Grey College was founded by Sir George Grey.
The year in which Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool (Affies) was founded.
The first encounter between Affies and Grey which Grey won 3-0. This match was played as a curtain-raiser for the Free State vs. Transvaal match during the inauguration of the new Springbok Park in Bloemfontein. The legendary Springbok Louis Schmidt (father of Uli) played for Affies’s First Team that year.
Affies and Wonderboom hosted Sentraal High School and Grey College during the long week-end of 31 May. Several newspapers remarked that the attendance of these matches exceeded the attendance of major club, universities and several provincial matches. This is still the case today.
1954 Grey College 9 vs Affies 3
1955 Grey College 19 vs Affies 0
1956 Grey College 6 vs Affies 6
1957 Grey College 22 vs Affies 0
1958 Grey College 14 vs Affies 6
1959 Grey College 14 vs Affies 3
1966 Grey College 25 vs Affies 11
Grey won 22-0. Dawie Snyman (Springbok) was the Grey vice-captain of the legendary Grey College team of 1967. Wilhelm Landman (Grey School Captain that played Western Province and previous MD of Richemont South Africa) was Grey’s fullback that year.
Grey won 16-11. Dr. Pierre Edwards (headmaster from Affies and Springbok fullback) played for Affies and Robbie Blair (Springbok flyhalf) played for Grey.
Early 70’s – Grey and Affies played regular Interschools in the early 70’s which was re-introduced again in the early 90’s
1971 Grey College 19 vs Affies 0
1972 Grey College 25 vs Affies 12
1973 Grey College 10 vs Affies 3
1974 Grey College 14 vs Affies 6
Morne du Plessis (Grey) and Tonie Roux (Affies) played for the Springboks against the legendary Invincible 1974 British Lions of Willie-John McBride
Grey produced a record four old Boys (Morne du Plessis (captain), Dawie Snyman (vice-captain), Theuns Stofberg and Robbie Blair) in the starting Springbok team against the World XV of Willie-John McBride during the inauguration of the new Loftus Versfeld
Dr. Pierre Edwards (headmaster from Affies) played for the Springboks against the South American Jaquars of Hugo Porta. Morne du Plessis (Grey) was captain of the Springbok team.
Grey produced a record 6 SA Schools players which included 5 of the 6 backline players including the captain and scrumhalf, Conrad de Beer. Other players were Helgardt Muller, Andre Greyling, Gerbrand Grobler, Leon Botha and Scheepers Gouws
For the first time Affies and Grey drew the First Team match (26 all), played in Bloemfontein.
Grey beat Affies 37-13 and had two players in the winning Springbok Rugby World Cup squad. Ruben Kruger and Naka Drotske.
Affies beat Grey for the first time with a record score of 25-3 in Pretoria. This match was televised live on television. The 1996 Affies team has been regarded as one of the best Affies rugby teams in the history of the school and scored a record 146 tries that year.
For the first time, Affies won more rugby matches than Grey during the Interschools. The First Teams drew 23 all. The “Wit Bul” is introduced as the Affies mascot during the home match against Waterkloof.
Grey won 17-13. Wian du Preez (Springbok) played for Grey that day.
Grey produced five players in the 1999 Rugby World Cup Springbok squad (Pieter Muller, Ruben Kruger, Naka Drotske, Ollie le Roux, Werner Swanepoel)
Affies en Grey drew 17 all. Fourie du Preez and Wynand Olivier played for Affies.
Affies and Grey drew again (3rd time in 4 years). Score was 12 all.
The 2002 Interschools between Grey and Affies in Pretoria will always be remembered as the last public appearance of Hansie Cronje before he tragically died one week later in a plane crash. This memorable occasion with Hansie at the Grey vs. Affies Interschools was also captured in the Hansie movie.
Grey and Affies were very equal in terms of strength at First Team level over a span of 3 – 4 years before the 2002 Interschools since they drew 3 times during this time frame. The build-up to the 2002 Interschools was electric and it was the general consensus that the team that would win that day will be crowned as the unofficial top South African schools rugby team for 2002 and also over the preceding 4-5 years.
Grey had several future Springboks and provincial rugby players in their team including Ruan Pienaar, Bismark du Plessis (both Springboks), and Andries Strauss (Sharks). Affies also had several future stars such as Derick Kuün (Bulls), Pierre Spies (Springboks) and Jacques-Louis Potgieter (Cheetahs and Bulls).
It was an intense match with Affies scoring early on and still leading 21-3 at halftime. It was published in the media after the match that Hansie called his dad (Ewie) during halftime and told him that while Grey is behind, he is convinced Grey would win that day. The second half produced some of the finest rugby moments from Grey scoring several tries to win 46-21.
For the 5th consecutive year Affies won more rugby matches on the day in all age groups.
Grey won 33-3 in Bloemfontein and produced 5 SA Schools players –Phillip vd Merwe, Richardt Strauss, Adriaan Strauss, Steph Robberts, Alwyn Hollenbach.
Grey won 32 – 29 in a nailbiting affair in Pretoria. Affies (16) won more rugby matches on the day against Grey (11). Grey’s First Team loose forwards were Heinrich Brussow (Springbok), Deon Stegmann (Bulls) en Richardt Strauss (Cheetahs).
Affies beat Grey for the second time in history in the year that Grey celebrated its 150th year. The score in Bloemfontein was 27 – 20 for Affies. Frans Steyn was the Grey flyhalf that day.
No less than 13 Old Greys formed part of the Cheetahs squad, including management team, that won the 2005 Currie Cup Finals against the Bulls at Loftus.
Affies won 18-13 in Pretoria. Grey won 20 of the 25 rugby matches played that day.
The 2007 Grey First Team was regarded as one of the best Grey College teams in history and beat Affies with a record score of 47 – 10 in Bloemfontein. The Ebersohn twins (Robert en Sias – both Cheetahs) and Coenie Oosthuizen (Cheetahs) played for Grey that day. This match was filmed by the Hansie movie crew to reproduce the 2002 Grey vs. Affies Interschools for the Hansie movie. Grey won 18 of the 28 rugby matches that day.
In the 2007 Rugby World Cup Springbok squad Grey College had the most schools representatives with five Old Grey players (CJ van der Linde, Bismark du Plessis, Jannie du Plessis, Ruan Pienaar, Francois Steyn). Affies had two representatives – Fourie du Preez and Wynand Olivier (Pierre Spies was injured)
Grey won 31-12 in Pretoria. Affies won 14 of the 28 rugby matches and drew 1.
Grey beat Affies 30-13 in Bloemfontein and won 17 of the total 27 rugby matches played (1 was drawn). The 2009 Grey First Team equaled the most amount of SA Schools players produced by one school in the starting line-up, namely six – Pieter Rademan (captain), Riaan Britz, Piet Lindeque, Jean Cook, Carl Wegner and Stephanus Kotze. The previous record was also held by Grey in 1981.
Affies had five players in the Bulls Currie Cup winning team as well as in the Super 14 Final which the Bulls won – Fourie du Preez, Wynand Olivier, Derick Kuun, Gerhard van den Heever and Pierre Spies. Also forwards coach Johann van Graan.
Grey College beat Affies 23-6 in Pretoria, the Grey 1st XV also produced 7 SA Schools & SA u18 players like Neethling Fouché, Neill Jordaan, Johan Goosen, Ruwellyn Isbel, Paul Jordaan, Kevin Luiters, William Small-Smith.
Paul Jordaan & Johan Goosen also represented the SA Under-18 High Performance squads during last year’s international friendlies against England U18s and France U18s.
Grey College also became the leading Bok producing school in SA & the most players from one school to play for Boks, there was 10 Old Grey Boys playing for Springboks at Europe Tour, namely Andries Strauss, Deon Stegman, Coenie Oosthuizen, Adriaan Strauss, CJ van der Linde, Jannie du Plessis, Bismarck du Plessis, Flip van der Merwe, Ruan Pienaar, Francois Steyn.
2011 There was 6 Grey Boys selected for the SA u20 Baby Boks team to represent South Africa at IRB Junior World Championships in Italy.
- Johan Goosen (Free State)
- Paul Jordaan (KwaZulu-Natal)
- Pieter Rademan (Free State)
- Jean Cook (Free State)
- Stephan Kotze (Free State)
- Francois Venter (Blue Bulls)
Paul Jordaan also played for the Springboks Sevens team in IRB Sevens World Championship.
8 Old Grey Boys in Springbok 37 man RWC Squad. Congrats to; Bismarck du Plessis, Jannie du Plessis, Heinrich Brüssow, Francois Steyn, Ruan Pienaar, Flip van der Merwe, Adriaan Strauss & Coenie Oosthuizen.
The results between Grey vs Affies:
- 2014 Affies 31 vs Grey College 42
- 2013 Grey College 31 vs Affies 37
- 2012 Grey College 29 vs Affies 35
- 2011 Grey College 16 vs Affies 11
- 2010 Grey College 23 vs Affies 6
- 2009 Grey College 30 vs Affies 13
- 2008 Grey College 31 vs Affies 12
- 2007 Grey College 47 vs Affies 10
- 2006 Grey College 13 vs Affies 18
- 2005 Grey College 20 vs Affies 27
- 2004 Grey College 32 vs Affies 29
- 2003 Grey College 33 vs Affies 3
- 2002 Grey College 46 vs Affies 21
- 2001 Grey College 12 vs Affies 12*
- 2000 Grey College 17 vs Affies 17*
- 1999 Grey College 17 vs Affies 13
- 1998 Grey College 23 vs Affies 23*
- 1997 Grey College 19 vs Affies 9
- 1996 Grey College 3 vs Affies 25
- 1995 Grey College 37 vs Affies 13
- 1994 Grey College 13 vs Affies 6
- 1993 Grey College 26 vs Affies 26*
- 1992 Grey College 24 vs Affies 3
- 1974 Grey College 14 vs Affies 6
- 1973 Grey College 10 vs Affies 3
- 1972 Grey College 25 vs Affies 12
- 1971 Grey College 19 vs Affies 0
- 1970 Grey College 16 vs Affies 11
- 1968 Grey College 28 vs Affies 8
- 1967 Grey College 22 vs Affies 0
- 1966 Grey College 25 vs Affies 11
- 1959 Grey College 14 vs Affies 3
- 1958 Grey College 14 vs Affies 6
- 1957 Grey College 22 vs Affies 0
- 1956 Grey College 6 vs Affies 6*
- 1955 Grey College 19 vs Affies 0
- 1954 Grey College 9 vs Affies 3
- 1953 Grey College 3 vs Affies 0
Played: 38 (since 1953-2014)
Won: Grey won 27 & Affies won 5 & Drew 5.
Total Points: Grey 830-469 Affies
Average p/game: Grey 22-12 Affies
Here are the 40 Springboks produced by Grey College:
|Grey Springboks||Played||Date of Birth|
|Broekie van Broekhuizen||1896||17
|Piet de Wet||1938||12-Mar-17|
|Morné du Plessis||1971||21-Oct-49|
|Ollie le Roux||1993||10-May-73|
|CJ van der Linde||2002||27-Aug-80|
|Wian du Preez||2007||30-Oct-82|
|Jannie du Plessis||2007||16-Nov-82|
|Bismarck du Plessis||2007||22-May-84|
|Flip van der Merwe||2010||3-Jun-85|
Here are the 7 Springboks produced by Affies:
1. 1954 Louis Schmidt
2 .1964 Tonie Roux
3. 1970 Pierre Edwards (Principle of Affies)
4. 1994 Grant Esterhuizen
5. 2000 Fourie du Preez
6. 2001 Wynand Olivier
7. 2003 Pierre Spies
by Nelio de Sa